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 Review by shane349 
Posted: 1 year ago
member for 4.6 years, 1042 visits, last login: 5 days ago
 Toledo,Lucas,OH
 $60 per month
 about 14 days
 "always up"
 "expensive for the speed and performace"
 "its okay, but will be switching soon"
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i started with the 8.0 bex. i never have gotten 8.0, and most of the time my neighbors dsl from at&t rivals my connection speed to just about anything. im not too impressed with buckeye, and i believe they could offer more speed for the money, and get rid of the annoying burst speed crap. i dont believe they have the network capibility to handle their customer base.
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Toledo, OH | Burst? Hey Shane, I'm curious what you're talking about when you reference "burst speed crap". Can you elaborate a little?
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Delta, OH | re burst speed is how fast it is for the first few seconds of a transfer, then it lowers to a constant, for example, burst of 700k, but constant of 400k. so its 8mb, but only for a few seconds. its most evident for applications like usenet. | |
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Toledo, OH
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| Re: re said by shane349 :burst speed is how fast it is for the first few seconds of a transfer, then it lowers to a constant, for example, burst of 700k, but constant of 400k. so its 8mb, but only for a few seconds. its most evident for applications like usenet. I've never encountered that; I typically get my full 12 Mbps unless I'm doing P2P, and even then I hit 12 Mbps from time to time. Everybody's experience can be different though I guess.
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Cleveland, OH | Re: re i've never had that either. I always get around 7.8 out of my 8.0. | |
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Review by Lodathi
UPDATED: 1.1 years ago
member for 1.1 years, 0 visits, last login: 1.1 years ago
Toledo,Lucas,OH
$29 per month (12 month contract)
"Absolutely none"
"Intermittent connection speeds from slow to horribly slow"
"Going back to AT&T DSL basic ASAP"
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AT&T Basic DSL blows Buckeye basic away in more points than just 1, the connection speed.
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Toledo, OH
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|  "To each his own"
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AT&T Basic DSL blows Buckeye basic away in more points than just 1, the connection speed.
I checked the website and it looks like 768 Kbps DSL (no mention of upstream speed) is $15 for non-existing customers, which I'll freely admit sounds like a pretty enticing deal if your needs are basic. Of course, it also requires AT&T land line service as well. You need either cable TV or BTel to get a $10 / mo break on BEX service, so that's not much of an argument though.
On a side note, whatever happened to the mandated $10 naked DSL -- does that not apply in Ohio?
Basic DSL may suit your needs, and if it does, then rock on. Here are some reasons why I personally would never even consider AT&T:
1. Bad issues in the past with their wireless division. I know the divisions have nothing to do with one another, but I have vowed to never give any company named "AT&T" a cent of my money.
2. They may be introducing caps / metered usage in the near future. At this point it's just speculation based on stuff execs have said, but I have a feeling there's some merit to the claims.
3. AT&T doesn't give a damn about my privacy. They're more than happy to illegally track my conversations and data without a warrant and turn it over to the government, as long as the government is willing to pay up.
4. Their next-gen plans (U-Verse) are a joke.
5. Did I already mention I despise the company?
Obviously your experiences with both Buckeye and AT&T are going to be different than mine, and I respect that. Heck, you might even have a 5+ point list of why you think Buckeye sucks. I'm simply pointing out why I would never make the switch for my own household.
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Cleveland, OH
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| Re: "To each his own" I would never go back to ATT for anything either. but they do not require landline services for their DSL but the $10 is only good for so long. maybe a couple years then they're free to either drop it or keep it. and i believe that time is almost up. Which you can bet that they'll drop it or raise the rates.
also many areas in Toledo are not being serviced that this time by DSL. They're claiming the DSLAMS are full and are not adding new ones due to their U-Verse product being rolled out. Which Fox claims its available now in Toledo which the State says its NOT. At least the TV part. ATT Techs will also tell you that none of the boxes are even turned on yet.
One thing about DSL that does suck is that you may have had it before and disconnected it and went to Buckeye but doesn't mean you'll be able to get DSL again due to your telephone line being moved to another set of equipment and ATT does NOT have to give you DSL.
but like Tate said--id never go back either and i'm happy with Buckeye. They go out of your way to please you and best of all your money STAYS in Toledo and doesn't go to Texas like with AT$T. | |
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| Re: "To each his own" I just got home from working at a client's office for the better part of the afternoon. While I was there, I had to download a bunch of updates and virus definitions, and I was appalled at how slow his connection was running. I was ready to tell him that he needed to call Buckeye and have the line looked at, but it turns out he recently switched from 7 Mbps commercial BEX to AT&T's 3 Mbps commercial DSL service in order to save some money. I ran a few speed tests and I was consistently seeing 350 - 380 Kbps down and a solid 340 Kbps up (with no other traffic present on the network). This is in Rossford, so I can only imagine how poor the quality of AT&T's copper plant is in the area. My fricken Sprint EVDO connection is 2x to 3x faster than that! The best part was when my client told me that he was assured he would get between 1.5 Mbps and 3 Mbps downstream by the sales people, yet the AT&T tech who came to install laughed and explained that he'd be lucky to get 768 Kbps to 1.5 Mbps!
No service is perfect, but still, it made me chuckle when I remembered the OP's comments about AT&T being the shiznit. 
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Cleveland, OH
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| Re: "To each his own" Gotta love with AT$T pulls that "our service is faster than cable and cheaper" shit over cable. When they flat out lie to the customers to begin with.
Their copper plant all over Ohio sucks and is like that. They should just give up and run fiber here but will never. I can actually see them selling off areas of Ohio to someone else just so they don't have to deal with upgrades in the near future. | |
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Toledo, OH | I was on the ATT 1.5 Mbps package and my sustained download was 1.2 Mbps, I upgraded to the 3.0 Mbps and now my sustained speed is 1.7Mbps. I pay $5 extra a month for half a megabit . | |
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| Re: "To each his own" Zip, they must be using that last 1.3 Mbps to channel all your surfing data directly to the NSA for spying. We ARE talking about AT&T here after all...
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| said by zipman :I was on the ATT 1.5 Mbps package and my sustained download was 1.2 Mbps, I upgraded to the 3.0 Mbps and now my sustained speed is 1.7Mbps. I pay $5 extra a month for half a megabit . I have 3 Mbps and I only get like 1.9 Mbps. I called and complained and they said it was within there specs! I can only get ATT or my apartments own cable service which if there internet is anything like there, it will totally suck! | |
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Toledo, OH
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| Re: "To each his own" said by tvjay :said by zipman :I was on the ATT 1.5 Mbps package and my sustained download was 1.2 Mbps, I upgraded to the 3.0 Mbps and now my sustained speed is 1.7Mbps. I pay $5 extra a month for half a megabit . I have 3 Mbps and I only get like 1.9 Mbps. I called and complained and they said it was within there specs! I can only get ATT or my apartments own cable service which if there internet is anything like there, it will totally suck! The service is only UP to 3 Mbps, I believe it's from 1.5 to 3.0, so as long as you're over 1.5 you're in the correct range. At least with my experience with buckeye you get 90+% of your rated speed. For example on 10 Mpbs I could get 9.5, and my brother in laws' speed tests were over 9.9 mbps. | |
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Review by shicaca
Posted: 2.8 years ago
member for 7.9 years, 13 visits, last login: 2.8 years ago
Toledo,Lucas,OH
$29 per month (12 month contract)
about 3 days
"Semi-fast download speeds, but the 1.5MB/128k feels slow."
"SLOW upload speeds for cable, but I'm not spending $70 for 100KBPS up"
"My feeling is it's kind of expensive for the speeds."
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I guess I'm used to the speedy lands of Time Warner from years past, but from my honest experience, it's a big sluggish. I am on the 1.5M/128k. I understand most people won't need a quick upload, however uploading files for college is like watching paint dry. Try taking a 5 or 10 MB PowerPoint and upload at 10-15k/s, and the worse part is that you can't do anything else while doing it, or you slow the connection way way down.
P2P, from what I've experienced, is "ehh". I've seen better, but also far worse. From my experience, I haven't had a problem. For those that are complaining, I guess I really don't understand. There's no P2P that gives you any more than 200 or 300 k/s b/c most of the time your computer can't handle all the connections at once. Most likely instead of it being their connection, it's their computer.
I run a Netgear wireless router/hub/firewall. It works really well. I *do* highly suggest placing authentication on your connection b/c of the theft level in the area, and with the horrible upload, if someone got a hold of your connection -- you're hosed.
There have been and are times that the service has gone down completely. Normally they know about it, report it on their auto-answer for tech support, and it normally returns in 15-30 min. There are also times of slow speeds, but they're few and far between.
All-in-all I'd rather have Verizon DSL -- you can upgrade from their base speed to 5mbps w/out a price increase. Impressive? I think so.
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Review by Nelson993795
Posted: 3.7 years ago
member for 3.7 years, 31 visits, last login: 3.3 years ago
Toledo,Lucas,OH
$69 per month
"none!"
"P2P, Torrent download throttling. High prices. Their figures lie!!"
"Worthless service if you like to download or upload anything"
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If you do any P2P or torrent downloading, look elsewhere, You do not want to have anything to do with buckeye cable. I live downtown Toledo, OH and was using SBC DSL Pro and had no problems with them but I saw that BEX offerred an 8.0 Mbps download package and I am a power downloader and I was dying to try it.
Even though it was expensive (70.00 a month!!), I figured if it was 3 times as fast as my DSL it would be worth it. When they installed it and showed me the speed test on DSL reports I was amazed. The speeds were so fast, I couldn't wait to try it with my favorite bit torrent client. Boy was I in for a surprise. From the very beginning it was slow, averaging about 150 down, maybe like 9-10 up. I thought ok maybe I need to tweak my clients, I did, azureaus, utorrent, i did all the tweaks and nothing, I also tried bit tornado and same crap results.
With my DSL I usually averaged about 250-275 down, 40 up (because I set it at that). My 8.0 Mbps from buckeye was acually slower than my 3.0 Mbps from SBC!!. I did some searching on internet and then I pulled up these reviews from others who had the same problems as me. I wish I had read reviews before I cancelled SBC and put this in but I just assumed the speeds they advertised where correct.
Needless to say I dumped them within 3 days (they have 30 day money back guarantee) and went back to my reliable, SBC DSL Pro for 19.99 a month. SBC DSL beats the pants off of buckeye cable in Toledo. Don't pay any attention to the "employees of BEX" who have posted here to spread the lies saying they do not throttle downloads because they obviously do.
Stay clear of Buckeye Cable in Toledo Ohio and get yourself SBC DSL till we hopefully get roadrunner or some other company who is not a ripoff like Buckeye Cable
******Update 03/21/2006**************************
I just switched to SBC DSL Expert which advertises up to 6Mbps down and up to 608Kbps up. And guess what, 24/7 I get about 95% of those figures.
And that is for 50 hucks a month. I was paying Buckeye 70.00 for advertised speeds of up to 8Mbps down and I think 512 up and maybe getting about 20-30% of that 24/7. You do the math and tell me who is better???
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| Do your homework I had the same problem w/ the 7 MB/s speed being slow. I did a little research and learned how to open up some ports for bitorrent. Now I'm getting fast speeds up and down. I could only get 5 connections before. Now I'm getting 200. Check out www.portforward.com before you bitch. | |
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| TWC and RR blows I'm in Maumee,monclova actually. I had adelphia before TWC bought them. I switched to BEX after TWC bought them. 2 months ago, I switched back to TWC for the cheaper HDTV package with the 6/784 RR service for $81 for both. Well, I'm back with BEX for a bit more money. I've never had such bad internet service. I was SBC DSL before BEX. RR is bad, and that's even if it's up. Speeds all over the place from 900ms, 3 minutes later, 20ks.
I've never liked BEX. For 20 years I've cursed them. Adelphia was great but TWC hasn't got it together yet. Maybe when they upgrade, I'll try them again but in the meantime, I stay with BEX. I worked out a deal with them too for the HDTV. I've got, the bundle with DVR-hdmi, and all HDTV programming except for HBO, ST.. etc for $120 including tax. | |
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Review by Surrept
Posted: 3.8 years ago
member for 3.8 years, 0 visits, last login: 3.8 years ago
Toledo,Lucas,OH
$50 per month (6 month contract)
about 5 days
"Fairly Cheap I Guess"
"Horrid Speeds and Obvious P2P Counter-measures"
"Would give my right arm to go back to comcast."
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Well I just moved to toledo, OH from baltimore, MD and boy do the internet choices in this area suck. It looks as if SBC and Buckeye are my only two options. My parents moved here about 6 months ago and got Buckeye cable right away. They seemed to think it was ok. Unfortunately most people who purchase internet don't have a clue, including my parents heheh.
I've been here for about 4 days and have been running speed tests everyday throughout different times of the day. It's quite obvious they are overselling. I'm on the 5mbit/512kbit package and there really isnt a single time throughout the day or night where I get advertised upload or download speeds. From about 8am in the morning till about 12am at night I pull no more than 1.5mbit down with about 400kbit upload consistently. About half of that time though my download is a mere 800kbit. Speeds fluctuate like i've never seen before in a cable co. Downloads start out at about 250kbyte and drop to about 100-130kbyte within a matter of seconds. Only during the hours of about 12am to 6-8am do I see relatively decent speeds. Still not 5mbit. More like 4mbit but I can live with 4mbit so long as its consistent throughout the ENTIRE day. As a whole this company is pretty darn pathetic.
On top of that it's obvious they have p2p counter-measures in place to prevent things like kazaa or torrent downloading. My LEGAL torrent that im currently downloading is pulling about 10k a sec max when im connected to about 40 seeds and 100+ peers. Even with opening proper ports which really shouldnt affect the receiving end of torrents the speeds stay low. It seems as if they randomly block ports on their end because when im connected to so many peers and seeds my http stops working for about 2-3 minutes at a time randomly. It comes back like clockwork everytime and its only when im connected to a torrent.
I can't tell you how much this upsets me as I do a lot of audio work on my PC and a lot of the torrent downloading I do is legal music sharing amongst people in the underground electronica scene.
Back in baltimore I had verizon dsl for almost 4 years and my speeds were always what they were supposed to be and never dropped below 95% throughput. On top of that my service went down I think 1 time in the entire 4 year period. After verizon I moved up the street into a townhome with a friend of mine and we ended up getting comcast cable internet. Again it was pretty much flawless. However it did manage to go down a couple times for a very short period each time within about a years time. When we signed up it was 4mbit with .5 overhead and within 6 months they had increased to 6mbit with .5 overhead without increasing price at all. I consistantly obtained 6mbit speeds throughout all times of the day and night. The upload could have been a bit better as it was 384kbit but that was more than sufficient for my online radio shoutcasts so that really didnt bother me.
At least back home the only 2 companies that offered broadband at a great price were top notch as far as the actual service went. I couldn't give a damn about customer service as in my experience there is no company that offers quality customer service. In the end the only way to get proper help is from tier 2 or 3 techs. Anyway I guess its obvious about how I feel about Buckeye Cable. Its Crap. Luckily the people living in the new house my parents bought are only there another month for their 30 day closing extension and we'll get to move in soon. Can't wait to drop this Buckeye Cable.
I must say times have changed to the point where when I decide to move out of the parents house again, internet service providers will be a priority in deciding where I want to live. I'm extremely upset I was unable to stay in baltimore any longer due to unforseen circumstances, as Verizon was just about to bring FiOS to the city within a couple months time. With verizon and comcast pushing the envelope in terms of speed/price it's a wonder how crap companies like this Buckeye Cable even stay in business. I guess the good ol boys in toledo just don't know any better =P. If they did everyone and their brother would be complaining as it seems this is pretty much the same for most of their customers.
Do not go with Buckeye Cable Internet unless you really enjoy crappy speeds and companies who infringe on your right to download what you choose. If you do decide to go with Buckeye though, do not shell out the loot for the 5mbit package. Just get the 1.5 package as you will rarely see speeds higher than 1.5-2mbit unless its in the middle of the night.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I want my verizon/comcast back.. Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Review by webbarcana
Posted: 4 years ago
member for 7 years, 28 visits, last login: 2.4 years ago
Northwood,Wood,OH
$44 per month
about 5 days
"If you have new coax run from tap the service can be reliable, but not services!"
"buckeye tel sucks. dns, dhcp, ldap, mail, tftp, ftp, and web hosting crash daily. they filter P2P."
"sucks. stay away from buckeye cable. unless you like your ports blocked, and p2p traffic throttled."
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The service goes down often (including services such as dns, dhcp, ldap, etc). P2P traffic is trottled. Lower service ports are blocked. technicians are substandard. also takes weeks if a sub needs a pc tech. takes about a week for a line call. and about 6 months to get a line buried.
You have been warned! Take it from an employee.
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 Review by ITTOLEDO
Posted: 4.8 years ago
member for 7.7 years, 376 visits, last login: 3.8 years ago
Toledo,Lucas,OH
$75 per month
"I will let you know when I find one"
"Not sure how to sum all of these up"
"STAY FAR AWAY"
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Buckeye-Express isn't worth the time for me to write a full review of my nightmare experience I have endured with this company.
Let this serve as a warning, this is far worse than the AOL I had nearly 8 years ago.
Don't be a fool.
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Review by ibuyisps
Posted: 5.4 years ago
member for 6.2 years, 6 visits, last login: 5.4 years ago
Rossford,Wood,OH
$50 per month
"Only broadband provided in my neighborhood."
"Extremely unreliable connection speeds."
"If you can get DSL, Wireless, or another cable company - do so!"
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Have had Buckeye for over two years now, also had it at my office for a short time. I have to say after experiencing Cox Communications and Adelphia Cable and their broadband products, Buckeye is about as low quality as you can go. The connection speeds are completely unreliable, but when you call for support they immediately blame you for the issues especially if you have a router/access point setup.
6/30/2004 - Another point on the quality of service Buckeye is having today. They lost one of the three pipes from Sprint coming into their NOC. Right now i'm getting ping reponses between 2400 and 2900ms when i'm doing trace routes...from both the location I have Buckeye and from my office where I have two 6Mb lines coming into. It is amazing how an ISP can leverage themselves so badly that when one of three lines go down, the other two can't compensate.
I am desperately missing my extremely reliable 3Mb connection that Cox provided me in Oklahoma. What a shame people around here don't know any better.
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Review by shyster
Posted: 5.5 years ago
member for 7 years, 177 visits, last login: 77 days ago
Temperance,Monroe,MI
$70 per month
"Speed, speed, speed."
"VERY pricey for the fastest connection."
"If you can afford it it's great."
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Great if you have the bucks...
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Review by OldnSlowRang
Posted: 5.7 years ago
member for 5.7 years, 44 visits, last login: 2.1 years ago
Temperance,Monroe,MI
$44 per month
about 5 days
"Beats Toast.net 56k connection"
"Only show in my part of Bedford"
"They know they have you by the short hairs..."
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Speed is all over the place.One day Im ecstatic with 1.9 down and 247 up and the next I'm 600 down and 75 up.Buckeye claims this is normal yet I dont see an adjustment in my bill for the 15 or so days of the month Im only 1x times faster than dial up.Only have 2 choices in Bedford to begin with and Im on the outer fringe of the new DSL being offered in Temperance and Lambertville so thats not even an option I would consider. Since Im not a teenager and the bill is actually being paid with my wages and not Mom and Dads I would not recommend Buckeye to anyone who really doesnt need cable.If your getting it for the kids to play FPS type games they are going to be somewhat disappointed.If your just surfing the web save your money and stick with Toast.net or whoever your dialup ISP is and wait until more competition comes to the Bedford area.
Sept 20,2004 Buckeye has once again upped their Bandwith to 5mb down/512kbs up. Im stable at 4440/488 so no complaints there.they have greatly improved their service but the major gripe I have is PRICE..... 70 bucks for Internet access and another 40 bucks for basic cable is quite a shock when u see a bill for 110 bucks a month....
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