TW_Caps
| [TW] TW Caps apply to Earthlink resold service?
TW has announced caps coming in the Austin area. Does anyone know if this will also apply to the Earthlink service that rides on TW or do they get to keep their own terms? Could I just switch to Earthlink and not have to worry about caps. |
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Ominator
@rr.com | I spoke with an Earthlink rep online today. I told him I read about TW emposing caps in my area, Greensboro, NC. He said they didn't have any caps and weren't planning on implementing them.
Just one rep but who knows. |
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aldamon
join:2002-04-29
Durham, NC
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I just switched to Earthlink in Durham. Greensboro is close enough to be scared the caps are coming up 85 soon.
Considering TWC's network was opened up to Earthlink to increase competition, I hope they do not implement caps. At least I'll save $20 for 6 months and $8 after that. TWC really stuck it to me as a non-cable customer. |
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KickMe
join:2001-10-03
Lancaster, OH
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
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Seriously think about it.
Earthlink is just using Time Warner lines and you believe that EL might not have to get onboard?
TW would eventually have no customers as Earthlink would have them all with no infrastructure or investment in infrastructure.
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TW_Caps
| Yes, but anything to delay the inevitable. If I have no other choice I would rather go to Earthlink even if they have the same caps as TW. At least they aren't responsible for the caps and hopefully TW would get less of my money that way. If everyone did the same TW would be in the same boat. |
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aldamon
join:2002-04-29
Durham, NC
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said by KickMe  :Seriously think about it. Earthlink is just using Time Warner lines and you believe that EL might not have to get onboard? TW would eventually have no customers as Earthlink would have them all with no infrastructure or investment in infrastructure. It's taken 9 years but how this all plays out will finally clarify what was accomplished by opening up TWC's network to Earthlink. If all they do is fall in line with TWC with every decision, what was the point? The services have different prices, and caps are really just elaborate billing schemes, so I'm hopeful that Earthlink will remain autonomous on this issue. |
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KickMe
join:2001-10-03
Lancaster, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| said by aldamon :said by KickMe :Seriously think about it. Earthlink is just using Time Warner lines and you believe that EL might not have to get onboard? TW would eventually have no customers as Earthlink would have them all with no infrastructure or investment in infrastructure. It's taken 9 years but how this all plays out will finally clarify what was accomplished by opening up TWC's network to Earthlink. If all they do is fall in line with TWC with every decision, what was the point? The services have different prices, and caps are really just elaborate billing schemes, so I'm hopeful that Earthlink will remain autonomous on this issue. All that exists today is an AGREEMENT between Time Warner and EarthLink. Their ORIGINAL relationship was an outgrowth of the TW/AOL merger, when government regulators sought to protect ISP competitors such as EL. However the US Supreme Court overturned a federal court decision that would force cable companies to share their infrastructure with Internet service providers such as Brand X and EarthLink.
Time Warner likes the deal with Earthlink because they have a reseller who also writes a fat check to them without some other expenses, such as marketing.
Basically Time Warner will simply tell Earthlink what will be required if they wish to renew the agreement, and Earthlink will be fine with it.
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The god of the religious is the one that they were programmed to believe in, and the god the atheist doesn't believe in isn't the God that is.
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aldamon
join:2002-04-29
Durham, NC | We'll SEE how it PLAYS out.  |
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Wilson34
@mindspring.com
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All billing is handled by TWC so Earthlink usage will be metered as well. Verizon will meter soon enough, although they might want to see if they can get TWC to go bankrupt first. There is no place to hide when all ISPs want to make money off of content and the government is owned by whoever makes the money. |
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pastrychef
join:2009-04-07
New York, NY
| said by Wilson34 :
All billing is handled by TWC so Earthlink usage will be metered as well. Verizon will meter soon enough, although they might want to see if they can get TWC to go bankrupt first.
You make it sound like these are facts. Have any proof to back it up? |
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Computernuss
join:2008-01-02
Raleigh, NC
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It would seem that Earthlink already has the ability to comply with TW caps without additional notification. Refer to Section 4, para 4 of the Earthlink Internet Service Agreement. It states "The Cable Provider may limit the amount of data that you can upload and/or download each month." This seems to allow TW to place caps but not charge additional usage fees. To Earthlink users_yet. |
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kemico
join:2002-05-12
Brooklyn, NY | reply to TW_Caps
schumer got it killed
»www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/04/···ner-c-1/ |
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KickMe
join:2001-10-03
Lancaster, OH
·RoadRunner Cable
·Earthlink Cable Mo..
| Not so fast, "killed" means "dead".
TW quotes:
"Time Warner Cable still believes that Consumption Based Billing is the right way to fairly charge our customers".
"we need to spend more time educating everyone on this new model before proceeding . . . we continue to believe that Consumption Based Billing may be the best pricing plan for consumers"
"In fact, several other providers have instituted Consumption Based Billing, including all major network providers in Canada and others in the United Kingdom, New Zealand and elsewhere. In the US, other broadband providers are also conducting Consumption Based Billing trials or are using varying methods of monitoring and managing bandwidth consumption".
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The god of the religious is the one that they were programmed to believe in, and the god the atheist doesn't believe in isn't the God that is.
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larc919
join:2005-01-12
Raleigh, NC
| said by KickMe :TW quotes: "Time Warner Cable still believes that Consumption Based Billing is the right way to fairly charge our customers". "we need to spend more time educating everyone on this new model before proceeding . . . we continue to believe that Consumption Based Billing may be the best pricing plan for consumers" "In fact, several other providers have instituted Consumption Based Billing, including all major network providers in Canada and others in the United Kingdom, New Zealand and elsewhere. In the US, other broadband providers are also conducting Consumption Based Billing trials or are using varying methods of monitoring and managing bandwidth consumption". Literal interpretation of the above:
We're extremely greedy and we want to milk more money from as many of our Internet customers as we possibly can. |
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