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INtech

join:2009-03-10
Brookston, IN
·CenturyLink

trace route

Would someone tell me whats good or normal on a tracert. Like in the following example, I was told the second hop should be 10 or less, yet no one around here gets that low. Was also told the 2 hop was my nic card. I don't think so, I think it is on CTL's network at that point. Set me straight, help me learn something. Thanks for any constructive info.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner>tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 48 ms 48 ms 50 ms 72-160-152-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.152.1]
3 48 ms 49 ms 50 ms GE-0-0-0-J1-rt.lr.centurytel.net [209.142.152.4]

4 51 ms 50 ms 48 ms 64.91.36.30
5 84 ms 84 ms 85 ms at-0-2-2.0.j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [64.91.42.129]
6 76 ms 76 ms 76 ms 206.51.71.213
7 86 ms 77 ms 77 ms bb-lcrswixc-jx9-02-ae0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.74]
8 78 ms 76 ms 98 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.50]
9 94 ms 93 ms 92 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

10 103 ms 101 ms 101 ms as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
11 106 ms 102 ms 111 ms ae1-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.85]
12 103 ms 104 ms 102 ms te-9-1.fab2-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.143]

13 132 ms 105 ms 101 ms UNKNOWN-209-191-78-169.yahoo.com [209.191.78.169]

14 101 ms 104 ms 102 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner>


tstolze
Premium
join:2003-08-08
O Fallon, MO
·CenturyLink

Step 1 is your modem
Step 2 should be the link between your modem and the CO/RT.

I will post a trace route when I get home in about 2 hours.
--
Ofallon, Mo Weather
St. Peters, Mo Weather


tstolze
Premium
join:2003-08-08
O Fallon, MO
·CenturyLink


1 edit
Tracing route to f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms 75-121-4-2.dyn.centurytel.net [75.121.4.2]
3 7 ms 6 ms 6 ms GE-0-0-0-j1.rt.wnvl.centurytel.net [66.112.11.73
]
4 7 ms 59 ms 7 ms host.lightcore.net [66.211.51.177]
5 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-02-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [
206.51.69.46]
6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-ae0.core.centurytel.net [206.
51.69.69]
7 67 ms 67 ms 67 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

8 79 ms 93 ms 78 ms as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
9 77 ms 77 ms 77 ms ae2-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.93]
10 77 ms 81 ms 80 ms te-8-1.fab1-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.133]

11 79 ms 79 ms 77 ms UNKNOWN-209-191-78-173.yahoo.com [209.191.78.173
]
12 80 ms 78 ms 79 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

(Added: Sorry I was late, we had a service outage tonight...)
--
Ofallon, Mo Weather
St. Peters, Mo Weather

INtech

join:2009-03-10
Brookston, IN
·CenturyLink

reply to INtech
So, I see your early hops are very low. What causes our early hops to be so high? I could swear that it used to be lower. I'm about a 1500' from the remote. It's fiber fed back to the office. Plus people in town and the town over(we all feed back to the same office, fiber) are the same when I do a tracert from their computer. Our speeds offered here are 512 and 1.5
CTL just added more bandwidth from town to town and back to Ohio, that helped on slow speeds but the ping times never got much better. I'm not complaining, just trying to figure it out.


dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
You run through La Crosse, WI - please see this thread: »Increased latency

INtech

join:2009-03-10
Brookston, IN
·CenturyLink

reply to INtech
That's some of it, but any info on my earlier hops. Like hop 2
Is that a local problem or even a problem at all in your eyes.
From Brookston to Battle Ground, Indiana to Lorain, Ohio
at 4:45 p.m. est
tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 53 ms 53 ms 52 ms 72-160-164-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.164.1]
3 53 ms 54 ms 53 ms GE-0-0-0-J1-rt.lr.centurytel.net [209.142.152.4]

4 60 ms 53 ms 53 ms 64.91.36.30
5 89 ms 88 ms 92 ms at-0-2-2.0.j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [64.91.42.129]
6 81 ms 83 ms 89 ms 206.51.71.213
7 84 ms 82 ms 87 ms bb-lcrswixc-jx9-02-ae0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.74]
8 79 ms 81 ms 82 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.50]
9 96 ms 106 ms 98 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

10 109 ms 104 ms 104 ms as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
11 106 ms 106 ms 105 ms ae2-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.93]
12 104 ms 106 ms 105 ms te-6-1.fab1-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.129]

13 112 ms 106 ms 105 ms UNKNOWN-209-191-78-171.yahoo.com [209.191.78.171]
14 106 ms 110 ms 105 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

Trace complete.


dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
·CenturyLink

In my opinion, hop 2 IS a problem. But, Ohio was the first state to be converted from Embarq to CenturyTel (CenturyLink) systems. So it is likely that if your routing goes through there, which eventually hits La Crosse, it will be affected until they get all the routes setup the way they want them while connecting Embarq's Network to CenturyTel's.

Have you tried different DNS servers just as a test by chance? It may help temporarily.

I did a tracert from my connection to Hop #2 on yours...

tracert 72.160.164.1

Tracing route to 72-160-164-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.164.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 3 ms 2 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 22 ms 24 ms 22 ms lcrsalcobr5.lcrswicoro1.centurytel.net [69.29.181.15]
3 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms ae-0-0-j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [207.119.244.129]
4 54 ms 54 ms 55 ms at-0-2-0-j2-rt.lr.centurytel.net [64.91.42.130]
5 56 ms 55 ms 54 ms 72-160-164-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.164.1]

Trace complete.

It's likely a traffic thing. They probably added all the Embarq customers to CenturyTel routers, and are in the process of re-configuring the Embarq routers...Embarq systems have not appeared on my network map yet, so it makes sense that the case is such.

INtech

join:2009-03-10
Brookston, IN
·CenturyLink

reply to INtech
Again, anyone see anything wrong with this?

6:49 est 1.5/512

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner>tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 98 ms 98 ms 95 ms 72-160-134-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.134.1]
3 104 ms 72 ms 69 ms GE-0-0-0-J1-rt.lr.centurytel.net [209.142.152.4]

4 93 ms 113 ms 121 ms 64.91.36.30
5 114 ms 122 ms 133 ms at-0-2-2.0.j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [64.91.42.129]
6 109 ms 117 ms 126 ms 206.51.71.213
7 114 ms 91 ms 87 ms bb-lcrswixc-jx9-02-ae0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.74]
8 115 ms 117 ms 117 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.50]
9 155 ms 149 ms 159 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

10 130 ms 123 ms * as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
11 135 ms 116 ms 129 ms ae2-p120.msr1.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.89]
12 124 ms 121 ms 117 ms te-8-2.fab1-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.149]

13 104 ms 126 ms 117 ms UNKNOWN-209-191-78-173.yahoo.com [209.191.78.173]
14 109 ms 110 ms 117 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

Trace complete.


INtech

join:2009-03-10
Brookston, IN
·CenturyLink

reply to INtech
3 minutes later....

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner>tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 * 71 ms 82 ms 72-160-134-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.134.1]
3 48 ms 51 ms 62 ms GE-0-0-0-J1-rt.lr.centurytel.net [209.142.152.4]

4 77 ms 91 ms 93 ms 64.91.36.30
5 83 ms 90 ms 86 ms at-0-2-2.0.j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [64.91.42.129]
6 115 ms 129 ms 122 ms 206.51.71.213
7 78 ms 83 ms 78 ms bb-lcrswixc-jx9-02-ae0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.74]
8 127 ms 94 ms 102 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.50]
9 132 ms 133 ms 161 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

10 137 ms 151 ms 164 ms as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
11 111 ms 126 ms 118 ms ae1-p120.msr1.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.81]
12 103 ms 109 ms 107 ms te-9-1.fab1-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.135]

13 111 ms 102 ms 110 ms te-8-1.bas-c1.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.193.5]
14 110 ms 106 ms 112 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

Trace complete.



dsldude08
Premium,VIP
join:2008-01-03
La Crosse, WI
Is this still acting up?

INtech

join:2009-03-10
Brookston, IN
·CenturyLink

reply to INtech
Well, for my area it seems to be. Hit and miss on the pings. Anywhere from 88 to 105. My concern is why the second hop is so slow compared to others i've seen around here.
Here's a tracert at 5:38 est

tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 49 ms 58 ms 49 ms 72-160-128-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.128.1]
3 54 ms 50 ms 47 ms GE-0-0-0-J1-rt.lr.centurytel.net [209.142.152.4]

4 49 ms 51 ms 48 ms 64.91.36.30
5 86 ms 93 ms 94 ms at-0-2-2.0.j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [64.91.42.129]
6 93 ms 88 ms 83 ms 206.51.71.213
7 89 ms 90 ms 80 ms bb-lcrswixc-jx9-02-ae0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.74]
8 78 ms 75 ms 77 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.50]
9 94 ms 103 ms 98 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

10 102 ms 117 ms 100 ms as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
11 101 ms 101 ms 114 ms ae2-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.93]
12 100 ms 106 ms 107 ms te-7-1.fab1-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.131]

13 101 ms 101 ms 108 ms UNKNOWN-209-191-78-171.yahoo.com [209.191.78.171]
14 126 ms 120 ms 129 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

Trace complete.


INtech

join:2009-03-10
Brookston, IN
·CenturyLink

reply to INtech
I still say there's problems. Anyone else? My speed doesn't look bad right now, but the pings are not good. Later both will be bad.

tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 48 ms 47 ms 48 ms 72-160-164-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.164.1]
3 49 ms 47 ms 48 ms GE-0-0-0-J1-rt.lr.centurytel.net [209.142.152.4]

4 48 ms 51 ms 51 ms 64.91.36.30
5 84 ms 82 ms 90 ms at-0-2-2.0.j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [64.91.42.129]
6 77 ms 91 ms 88 ms 206.51.71.213
7 107 ms 81 ms 78 ms bb-lcrswixc-jx9-02-ae0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.74]
8 82 ms 76 ms 75 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.50]
9 95 ms 92 ms 94 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

10 101 ms 100 ms 100 ms as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
11 102 ms 135 ms 102 ms ae2-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.93]
12 105 ms 115 ms 103 ms te-7-1.fab2-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.139]

13 103 ms 100 ms 101 ms te-9-1.bas-c2.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.193.11]
14 101 ms 102 ms 101 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

Trace complete.



tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
2 55 ms 48 ms 47 ms 72-160-164-1.dyn.centurytel.net [72.160.164.1]
3 48 ms 55 ms 53 ms GE-0-0-0-J1-rt.lr.centurytel.net [209.142.152.4]

4 48 ms 55 ms 52 ms 64.91.36.30
5 * 85 ms 90 ms at-0-2-2.0.j1-rt.lax.centurytel.net [64.91.42.129]
6 78 ms 86 ms 82 ms 206.51.71.213
7 91 ms 77 ms 78 ms bb-lcrswixc-jx9-02-ae0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.74]
8 78 ms 76 ms 81 ms bb-chcgilwu-jx9-01-xe-1-1-0.core.lightcore.net [206.51.69.50]
9 207 ms 94 ms 110 ms exchange-cust1.ch1.equinix.net [206.223.119.16]

10 129 ms 105 ms 99 ms as-2.pat1.da3.yahoo.com [216.115.96.41]
11 106 ms 103 ms 118 ms ae1-p130.msr2.mud.yahoo.com [216.115.104.85]
12 101 ms 120 ms 108 ms te-9-1.fab1-a-gdc.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.78.135]

13 107 ms 103 ms 111 ms UNKNOWN-209-191-78-169.yahoo.com [209.191.78.169
]
14 107 ms 102 ms 101 ms f1.www.vip.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.93.52]

Trace complete.

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